well, years ago I did do a lot of messing around with quickbasic. Never really got past doing simple graphics with it though (kaleidescope etc..), didn't have the patience back then to learn how to do things like sprites and stuff. Although I was a little confused by the differences at first, lua is turning out to be much easier to program (graphics wise at least, I won't be getting into collisions and stuff until I get the main display engine worked out)