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09-03-2006, 07:05 AM
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Points: 25.60 Donate | | Idea! Someone should (if it's possible) make an application changer for 1.5's, like the Alt+Tab on windows, or even better, the f9 on Mac OS X (the f9 would've been cool!!!!)
i guess it's not possible, but it'd been cool to be able to run multiple applications on the same time 
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09-03-2006, 07:38 AM
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Points: 70.80 Donate | | | wat do you mean by this? how can this relate to psp?
Edit: ohh i see so you can run mulitple homebrew at one time? that would need more ram but if you could edit firmware you could set the ms as ram
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09-03-2006, 08:07 AM
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09-03-2006, 08:37 AM
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Points: 214.02 Donate | | | It's possible. I thought about doing something like this a while ago. Something like what IRshell does, but replacing it IRshell with something else.
It is possible, and should be simple to code. Why not contact Ahman and ask him to help you? Or you could just do it yourself.
Possible problems:
-Clashing of sound
-Clashing of MS read/write
-Wifi apps together
-General incompatibility issues
Give it a try if you want. I'm not all that interested, but it's a good idea. | 
09-03-2006, 08:51 AM
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Points: 8.19 Donate | | | I'm sure it would be possible (everything is possible!), but the feasibility of it is rather little. The PSP, being a purpose-built platform, is not designed for multi-tasking capabilities. I mean, yeah, it wasn't designed to run SNES games either (lol), but when i first installed iRShell and noticed you could play MP3's, play a game with RunUMD, and switch between the ISO and iRShell, i thought WOW that is amazing.... But yeah, i'm not a heavy developer (with PSP's.. yet) so i wouldn't really know. Maybe you can...
MS Duo as RAM? That'd be heaps slow (lol)
I have a question (sorry to go off topic, but i wouldnt waste time opening a new thread with this) - when you run a devhook'd game in iRShell or something, is there ever any RAM issues involved? I've always wondered that...
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09-03-2006, 10:08 AM
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Points: 0.92 Donate | | | i like youre idea alot maybe u shud forward it to a experienced coder wilhel | 
09-03-2006, 10:18 AM
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Points: 70.80 Donate | | | well the psp only has around 4 mb ramfor web browsing...
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09-03-2006, 10:43 AM
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Thank you all for your answers. Quote: |
Originally Posted by pj1115 It's possible. I thought about doing something like this a while ago. Something like what IRshell does, but replacing it IRshell with something else.
It is possible, and should be simple to code. | Really?? cool!! Quote: |
Originally Posted by pj1115 Why not contact Ahman and ask him to help you? | Who is Ahman?? Quote: |
Originally Posted by pj1115 Or you could just do it yourself. | Well, unless it's possible to do it in photoshop i dont think i can do it lol. Quote: |
Originally Posted by pj1115
Possible problems:
-Clashing of sound
-Clashing of MS read/write
-Wifi apps together
-General incompatibility issues
Give it a try if you want. I'm not all that interested, but it's a good idea. | Thank you for a good answer that's easy to understand. like all your answers! Quote: |
Originally Posted by jasa wat do you mean by this? how can this relate to psp?
Edit: ohh i see so you can run mulitple homebrew at one time? | Yes, but not only hjomebrew. i'm also thinking about the xmb stuff, like music, video, umd games and stuff. like having afkim open while playing music. Quote: |
Originally Posted by jasa that would need more ram but if you could edit firmware you could set the ms as ram | i doubt that'd work. i guess it wont take long before the psp gets slow, but i can live whit that. and i guess something will work whitout problems, and something will not work at all. Quote: |
Originally Posted by charizard2006 i like youre idea alot maybe u shud forward it to a experienced coder wilhel | Thanks for liking it, i like it too 
well, i was pćosting it there to let everyone, including experienced coders to see it. but if you have any suggestions, i'd gladly recive them. i need it Quote: |
Originally Posted by jasa well the psp only has around 4 mb ramfor web browsing... | You mean that the psp only uses 4mb of its ram while using the web browser?? omg why?? i dont understand what sony is thinking... the psp has 32 mb ram or somehting, right?? why shall we only use 1/8 of its capacity, and not being able to use the rest for something else???
Wow, this post became long lol | 
09-03-2006, 03:19 PM
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09-03-2006, 03:31 PM
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Points: 29.90 Donate | | | I igree with you, it'd be great to have multi-tasking homebrew. IRShell does this, but in a really limited sense (mp3 and other homebrew). PSPRadio comes even closer and will run itself and it's extentions (like AFKIM or LINKS2). So it is possible, but coders would need to get used to tighter coding due to the memory restrictions. As for putting a page file on the MS, possible, but it will wear out the MS faster due to all the read/writes. Also, it is slower, and a really good dev would have to write a memory managment utility that checks if an app is in use and move all of the unused ones to page.
Example of correct paging: a psp is running RIN, PSPRadio, and trying to load DOOM. The Memory Manager sees that PSPRadio is accessing the WIFI (and thus in use), but RIN is just waiting for button input. So, HALT and move RIN out of memory and onto the memory stick's page, and continue to load up DOOM.
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