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jsf · #1 (**permalink**) 05-10-2007, 05:40 PM

This was posted in the GAP section of the Playstation Underground by someone named Korlithiel.

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This article is an excellent example of the homebrew community taking it too far.

Before now there was only weak PSP replacement's for the PC from what I've found, barely able to run homebrew to support budding developers but completely unable to be used for the key illegal activities of playing PSP games and PS games.

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In the past the open source movement to me meant a simple thing, that there were alternatives to the commercial programs while also allowing for people like me to learn and contribute to the groups effort, to bolster their current goals.

Try taking a look over at OpenOffice.org: Home, they have a fantastic set of programs which work fairly well as an alternative to those sold with many PC's.

Because of the many wonderful open source programs on the PC I longed to believe that it would translate well to the PSP, and to some extent it has.

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And

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They are both some excellent examples of what can be done for the PSP. Another one, more recent is PiKey (Noobz.eu) which is also originally made for use with PDA keyboards.

Many of these require a custom firmware, specifically those made by a coder who goes by the name of Dark_Alex (though I think the capitalization is different). Those custom firmwares give the user many advantages, they work and closely resemble the regular firmwares (note 3.40 OE-A for instance) but also have a few advantages such as being able to run homebrew, modified prx files

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and the very useful ability to use ripped PS games that have been converted via PC, this means no need to buy a PS3 or rebuy your PS games just to play them on the go.

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These custom firmwares, homebrew programs and more; these have been a boon to many like myself giving many bonuses with few drawbacks (research to be sure they won't cause us grief over a bricked PSP for instance) and with nothing really needed.

After much back and forth I've been feeling down when thinking about homebrew. Looking at the above and joining in on many (often heated) discussions on GameFAQs and other places concerning homebrew on the PSP I have given it much thought.

Only recently have I been given evidence that homebrew on the PSP has had any significant impact, looking at software sales and seeing how newer and better games have been typically selling worse could be a cause but now this.

That emulator for the PC (first link up top) is proof that even though allowing for people to make their own choices is something we can all understand is a birthright we clearly can also see how others choose to abuse it.

I do love the homebrew community, but having to see it attempting to destroy the PSP in such a brutal way leaves me unwilling to believe that it is worth it anymore, though I would like your input on this, the open source movement in general as well as opening the PSP for consumers full use in general.

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All links either refer to a PSP news webpage that is linked to from PSP.connect.com or linked from that news page.
The ideas in this story were, though poorly organized, intentionally meant to show both my outrage at the homebrew community and to show some of my questions left because of it.

P.S. This is my first story, if you feel improvement is needed please advise me on how best to improve it in your opinion so I may use some of your suggestions in future blogs and possibly stories.

Source: http://gap.us.playstation.com/?q=node/59005 (there's a possibility that you won't be able to see the page unless you're a GAP member)

I don't like how he claims the Homebrew Community is destroying the PSP.
My rebuttle to that was:

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I am a very active member of the PSP homebrew community myself and It's great. I have 3.40 oe on my PSP. I have a ripped copy of Castlevania Symphony of the Night on my memory stick plus a whole bunch of Homebrew. some people actually buy the PSP just to do homebrew and stuff after they learn what the PSP can do with hacks. With 3.40 oe I recently customized my PSP's icons on the XMB menu. The custom firmware by Dark Alex releases the PSP's true potential. I disagree when you said that and I quote, "Only recently have I been given evidence that homebrew on the PSP has had any significant impact, looking at software sales and seeing how newer and better games have been typically selling worse could be a cause but now this." I still buy UMD games and so do all my other friends who use homebrew. The Homebrew community will not be the death of the PSP if anything it will help it because like I said some people buy the PSP just for homebrew.

Submitted by jsf1987on Thu, 2007-05-10 12:00

What do you all think?

hemiola1 · #2 (**permalink**) 05-10-2007, 06:47 PM

I have yet to read the artical but if anything, the homebrew community is holding the psp together. It has some real crappy games out there and some pretty cool features, that $ony really f'ed up. Ex: only allowing .mp4 files for movies. I'm sure that when I do read this, I will be like "This guy is full of shit!"

jsf · #3 (**permalink**) 05-10-2007, 06:50 PM

I agree with you that the Homebrew Community is holding together the PSP and I even replied to the article and said that (See my response below the article). The guy is full of crap. he's complaining about some PSP emulator that isn't even completed yet. I think I stupidest thing he said was this:

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I do love the homebrew community, but having to see it attempting to destroy the PSP in such a brutal way leaves me unwilling to believe that it is worth it anymore, though I would like your input on this, the open source movement in general as well as opening the PSP for consumers full use in general.

rAndomX · #4 (**permalink**) 05-10-2007, 07:03 PM

Wow... that's a wrap.

He needs to stop visiting the noob official PS forums and come here.

And learn a thing or two, hopefully.

SpongeFreak52 · #5 (**permalink**) 05-10-2007, 07:19 PM

For the least part, I can only disagree. You guys are right, homebrew is a major plus for the PSP, and Sony did screw up.

Gamer420 · #6 (**permalink**) 05-10-2007, 07:53 PM

Yea I agree that the HB community has had a great good impact on the PSP. I mean a lot of ppl are interested in buying a PSP just to use HBs and maybe do some movies also. But because of HB sales of newer games have gone down is not entirely tru. It is most likely the reason behind that is maybe Sony hasn't made that great of games for PSP. Plus, the fact that they are practically just making all the PS2 games for the PSP. I mean wat games are specificly just for the PSP and not the PS2. Just bout none I can think of right now. In order to get sales of newer games up Sony needs to consider making some better games and make one or two only for the PSP. That will help up the sales on newer games.

jsf · #7 (**permalink**) 05-10-2007, 08:49 PM

That's pretty much what I said in my reply to the article. So we all agree that the guy is full of crap and that the Homebrew Community helps the PSP not hurts it.

jcoolkatzerg · #8 (**permalink**) 05-10-2007, 11:21 PM

Although I think this guy is quite confuzzeled, he does have a few half-baked ideas. In my opinion, homebrew helps the PSP a lot more then it hurts. But we can not ignore the fact that it does hurt a little bit. Homebrew has expanded the amount of time I spend with my PSP. I use it as a moble computer because my laptop is a bit on the bulky side and doesn't fit inside my pocket. I can send e-mail, AIM, listen to music, and browse the web with it! However, I have noticed that the price at which I will buy a UMD is way low. Unless I have to have that game (last one was GTA:VCS), I'll wait till the price is about $29.99 or lower because I am perfectly content with playing homebrew games in the mean time. If a game is orriginaly sold at $49.99, that's a $20 loss of income on me that I would have spent (I think they should try to improve the quality of thier games too....). I also never bought UMD movies even when they are $5 in the bargan bin because I could always encode them myself from my DVD's in PMP format at a high quality. Finaly, I do not own an official PS1-to-PSP game from the Sony Store because I can make my own through the POP converter. However, if Sony relesed a game I did not own, and wanted to play, I would get it. But thier selection isn't big enough for this to have happened yet (I have a TON of ps1 games). BUT I wouldn't have gotten the PSP in the first place if I didn't know about homebrew. Also, I have talked my friends into a PSP because of homebrew! None of them would have bought it otherwise.

I really think Sony should encorage homebrew because it expands thier device into the portable computer it really is. They would have more people buying the PSP becaus ether could eather develop for it or just listen to their music on it. Part of what makes the PS3 a good platform is the fact that I can develop for it under Linux. The PSP doesn't have to run Linux, but just opening up the device a little bit would be a great move. Heck, even USER mode only would be awsome.

Note, I am not going to deal with ISO's here. I am against them fully. Sony can block them if they started alowing homebrew, so that is not a valid excuse.....

hemiola1 · #9 (**permalink**) 05-10-2007, 11:55 PM

This must have been worked by some one who works at $ony

Gamer420 · #10 (**permalink**) 05-11-2007, 11:38 PM

Yea I bet..... $ony is always trying to put the HB community down.